"Chit Chat": Siblings Unleashed - Part Two

Welcome to the sequel (part two) of our exciting four-part series, "Chit Chat": SIbilings Unleashed. In this episode, Ian and I dive into a range of topics throughout our conversation, including the mysterious nature of cults, the intriguing phenomenon of microdosing, and the evolving dynamics of the US food industry! So, grab your favorite drink, make yourself comfortable, and get ready for another part two of four, Siblings Unleashed. 

Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 1:29 Tourette syndrome
• 7:21 Cults
• 10:08 Microdosing
• 18:00 US Food Industry
• 22:10 Closing

Transcript

Welcome to the Life we Live. I'm your host, Nicole Williams. Join me as I share my own life's adventures, sharing stories that are as funny as they are. Hopefully insightful. But that's not all. Tune in and hear from voices of everyday people, uncovering the rich tapestry of experiences that make up our lives, from hilarious mishaps to profound moments of clarity. Each episode is packed with entertaining tales that will make you laugh, think, and connect with the world around you. So whether you're tuning in during your morning commute or winding down at home, get ready to embrace the beauty and the humor in the life we all live. Let's dive in. Welcome back to part two of Siblings Unleashed. In this episode, Ian and I will dive into a range of captivating topics, including the mysterious nature of cults, the intriguing phenomenon of microdosing, and the evolving dynamics of the food industry in the United States. So if you haven't already, go ahead and grab your favorite drink, make yourself comfortable, and get ready for what I hope to be a captivating dialogue that will pique your curiosity. It's such trash TV, but it's so entertaining. Have you seen the the newer one on TLC? I think it's newer. I new to me, but they did this whole show on this, this young girl that has like verbal Tourette's. Oh wait, I think I've watched 1 or 2 episodes. Yeah, I remember like I only watched the previews. I actually haven't even watched it yet, but it was enough for me. I was dying, you know, like when you're in the airport just yelling, I have a gun uncontrollably because you saw a sign saying no guns. Did you know that? There was. I don't have any of the details, so don't ask me any details. But there was a study done on people who have Tourette's that go on YouTube or go on, you know, TV and have the shows that since there's been and I guess you can't really correlate the data just, just, just yet. But there's since it's been more in mainstream media, whether it's YouTube TikToks or, um, um, on TV, that the spike of people that are younger. I think it's like but like that teen to early 20 time frame, the incidence of them having Tourettes increased. And so some of it they're saying they they think is psychological and not really a actual ticking issue, that some of it is psychological based on sort of that which I think is fascinating. Like, like that whole groups group mentality, group psychology component of how you can be so influenced by what's happening, um, you know, and what you're subject to, which I just find it fascinating. Again, I don't know if there's enough I don't remember the study, and I don't know if there's enough data to correlate. Is this related to the spike of incidences from a social media perspective, or is it just because there's more awareness? Because that's where my questioning goes is, well, you know, as we as we get more sophisticated with, with just. Mental understanding the the components of psychology in general and and the neurological side of of the brain. Um, just, you know, is is this just because we know more and so people are more vocal about it? And maybe it was just one of those things where people were more shameful and less open about it. So I'm a firm believer that, like, you know, there's there's a lot of studies going on, especially with, um, psychedelics, you know, like using mushrooms and stuff to kind of like reset the wiring in your brain. Um, and there's a lot of, uh, there's a lot of people talking about how, you know, we didn't really have those issues back in the 60s when, you know, before it was kind of like everything was scheduled one and people had that peace of mind. They had that love and that prosperity because they were dealing with these tribulations in their brain. And I think a lot of it had to do with psychedelics. And I think that's why our government did a lot of studies and information on it. And I don't think it's a good business for them to cure that part of our brain. I think it pays well to have people with mental issues, unfortunately, that we live in a pharmaceutical world. Well, I think there's a ton of money on, on like the what are they, the SSRIs that are right. Is that what it's called? Um, there's a ton of there's a ton of money in that. A ton of money. So it's hard it's hard for me not to go down the conspiracy theorist route and, and, and not agree with you that there's something behind the money that's made and in pharma in general. But, um. But it was interesting what I was reading because again, it was it was less about big Pharma and the conspiracy theory and more around just how group psychology works, and that there are certain things that can trigger people to I don't want to say phantom, but almost have phantom, you know, incidences. Which makes sense because if you go back to like the Salem witch trials and all of that, like all the people that started to have all these phantom diseases or illnesses, that was all because of sorcery and witchcraft, you know, all had to do with that. Just well, that's what they were saying. That's what they're saying is just it was the whole like, um, I can't I can't think of the word right now, but the it all because I did a, I did a project like years and years and years ago for one of my studies in college because I was my undergrad was in psychology, and I found I found the hysteria and like group psychology. Part just fascinating. Um, so. But but that was like a lot of, a lot of how they have explained some of the hysteria that was happening through the Salem witch trials was, was, was really around that, you know, group group hysteria. And, and just I just find it so fascinating, right. Because I think they really paint a good enough picture for people to understand, like how in control your brain really is of everything. I'll think about, like, I mean, there's so many things that have happened over the years. I mean, uh, what was the the what was the group that where the saying comes, don't drink the Kool-Aid. That all did the mass suicide. Uh, yeah. The cult, the. Yeah. Like a cults in general. Like they you, you you and I would probably sit here and be like, there's no way in hell I wouldn't. I would do anything like, oh, I would know if I were a part of a cult. Right. Like, would you agree? I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I sit here and I'm like, there's no way I would. I would be a part of it. It's it's just these certain, you know, but it's it's a slow it's a slow build. Very slow build. It's not like you walk. Yeah. If I walked into a cult right now after, you know, ten years of them built slowly building, I'd be like, what is this bullshit? Years of it's years of this is the norm. And it's small, but it starts small. But they do it because they break down your own psyche first, right? Like that's what it's all stuff. It's almost like break down, erase and replace. And so it's it's like everything that you hold true to your identity now is slowly stripped away. And they replace it with their own dogma and, and and their own ideology. Right. It's it's it's it's so fascinating. It's so fascinating. So as much as I would like to sit here and say I'm strong, I would never it'd be like somebody coming up to me today and being like. You were never married and you don't have children. You know what I mean? And I'd be like, what are you talking about? I have two children. I remember giving birth to them like it's so ingrained in them at that point that it's not. It's it's they wouldn't even think of it as a cult, you know what I mean? But I find it so. I find it so, so fascinating because essentially what the study was saying is that because of the increased, uh, access to seeing this, we're seeing a huge uptick, more than what they can explain by, you know, what they what they think is correlated to just more awareness, which makes them think it's more of that sort of mass hysteria of, oh, yeah, I have a tick too. But these it's not like they're these people are are lying. Like they really believe they have ticks and they displayed ticks. But it may not be actually Tourette's, which is which is interesting. Fascinating to me. Yeah, it's super interesting. And I think it's healthy that they're studying studies being done, um, on these little niche areas that people don't really put a lot of focus into. Right. Back to your thing on, on, um, psychedelics. Do you, do you remember, um, do you remember Matthew Perry from friends? Do you do you know the whole story about how he died? Oh, I know he was a drug user and bought it for most of what we knew him from. Um, right. So originally, when was it? Correct. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they found out later, right? That it was an overdose. But originally what they had come out with is saying that. Oh, he drowned in a hot tub. Oh, sorry. Remember him? Like, I remember being like, what the fuck do you mean? He drowned in a hot tub? Like, did somebody hold him under water? Like, usually if you fall asleep, no matter how tired you are in your head's underwater, like, yo, yo, wake up. So, um. And then they came out later. I never get the name right. Is it ketamine? Is that the stuff they cut? Like the really dangerous stuff. Yeah. I mean, it's no good. So so it he had astronomical levels of ketamine in his system. And so then I was watching this whole documentary is out now. Um, I don't even remember. I think I may have watched it on Peacock, but, um, I don't know what streaming services you have, but I have, like, every single one of them, because I'm a dork and I get obsessed with these things. Yeah. We don't we don't use cable. We just stream. So that's all I do, too. I mean, I have cable because it came with the internet package. Then I had to get we used to do it because it was like white paper commercials. But I can't say that anymore. I know. Right? Um, so anyway, on on Peacock, I was watching it and it was it's a, it's a documentary that just came out about Matthew Perry. And so anyway, the long story short is I won't get too much into the documentary, but I do recommend watching. It was pretty good. It was better than I thought it was going to be. But, um, there was this whole conversation about ketamine and his situation is pretty effed up. So you should watch it and and get the get the juicy details. But that's not what I wanted to talk about. I wanted to talk about the fact that I didn't realize that. Perfectly legal. How ketamine has been used in the past and how extraordinary it has been for mental health. And so they have these treatment centres, and they were specifically focusing in California. But I'm sure they're everywhere where under supervision on a very, very, very tiny minute dose. They essentially dose these people. They monitor them for a few hours, make sure all their vitals, their blood pressure and everything is fine. And it's like it's they were the doctor was explaining it on this documentary that it's almost like a mind reset. So it like completely it completely resets the mind. And then these people, for weeks and sometimes months after one dosing, seem to be able to handle what was originally very problem. Some in, in their life, whether it was PTSD, whether it was extreme anxiety, extreme depression, that things didn't really necessarily bother them so much. Now, I think they still like have to go for like regular dosing. But but it every time they did it it's like this, this reset. And I had no idea because all I ever really heard of from a ketamine perspective is what you see on online with all of this, all of that being cut with heroin and how people are exactly. And people dying. Same. You see these same paths with, um, you know, like with salvia and DMT and acid, like anything that triggers that kind of part of your neurological brain, like they're seeing these effects. So as long as it wasn't cut with something nasty or, you know, it was moderated or properly dosed, like there's positive things that people didn't see, I think I think PTSD is one of the biggest ones. I think people that are veterans are coming out of the military. That would be a huge help for. Yeah. Well, I mean, and they're not all cases. Obviously there's no medication for all. There really isn't, you know, something that's maybe more of a neurological issue and some things may be something else that's driving. Right. Well, I mean, but here's the thing. Like most of the people that are doing these dosing or approved for doing these dosing, um, appointments are ones where like the, the main the mainstream approaches have not worked. So therapy has not worked. But you know the the normal antidepressants, anti-anxiety pills. I haven't worked. And that's the fascinating thing. Like I don't think people understand is that. It's not like every antidepressant or every anxiety works the same way with with with everybody. So when you are going through this process where you have a mental health issue and you need help from a medication perspective, some of these people struggle years and years and years to find the right med that actually works with their chemical makeup that will actually reduce what they're feeling. And I think therein lies the problem. You know, speaking for from experience myself, I mean, to me, it's just these these solutions that we have are just Band-Aids, you know, like you're trying to either alter some kind of serotonin chemical being created in your brain to help you with the depression, or, you know, you're helping mask a certain area that however, that all works. You know, for my instance, if, if if you are trying to compensate for a lack of serotonin and you're taking a medication that causes your body to produce so much more of this, then naturally that becomes the body's understood new norm. There's never going to be a flat line where you're you're good at some point. That medication either isn't going to be doing enough, or your body is going to stop creating it all in itself, because it's relying on that medicine, helping you produce so much of it. So like our body is very intelligent on on metering things. And I think that's why it's not really a solution. For most, it's a temporary fix. And then the biggest problem is what happens with people, especially with depression. What happens when you are medicated and it is a good fit and it is working currently. What is the natural mindset? Okay, well, I'm better now. I don't need the support and then a lot of the people stop taking it. I think it's I've seen it both ways. I see people feel like they don't need it, but then I've also seen it where at some point the dosing doesn't work anymore, and then you have to go up to the next level, right? Because I have a, a actually a mutual friend of ours, but I'm not going to say their name here. Um, but but they, they're going through the same thing like the dosing is just been on and on this medication for a while. The medication is working well, but the dosing doesn't work anymore. And so now they're creeping it up. And it's like, at what point are you at a level where you just can't you can't. And that's another that's another problem is we're we're creating we're creating all these situations because we're in chemical warfare just with all of our health and the stuff we have to take the medicines and then look at our foods and our intake and what they're putting in our foods. You know, a lot of these ingredients, which are illegal in every other country but ours. Why is that? You know, and so, like, there's just so many aspects that are just throwing us completely out of whack. Yeah. I don't I don't have an answer for the food industry, that's all. That whole thing. It's crazy because even if you think about it right, the whole food pyramid was really created as a marketing ploy for agriculture. Like it wasn't. It's not necessarily from a, from a what your body needs for fuel. It didn't represent. That's why the food pyramid has gotten. Shifted and changed. I don't even know what it's called anymore. I don't even know what they're saying it is anymore. But. But the dosing of how many, how how much dairy you need and how much, um, you know, refined carbs that you need was, was very skewed, very, very skewed. However, I don't think it was really a problem when you think about the 1950s and maybe before the 1950s, because there wasn't all the shit chemically put in the food, so it wasn't things that make things more appealing and addicting free. So so it wasn't prevent you from feeling cool from that product or to crave it. Right. So it the game has changed and was extremely commercialized and um, and even even with the like the these it's so it's such a confusing. Personally I find it very confusing because first of all, even in the science community, there's not really an agreement on what's right and what's wrong. Um, because you have some you have some nutrition nutritionists that swear by. Oh, no, no, you need that in your diet. And you have others that are like, no, that's toxic. And it's like, how does any normal person who doesn't know anything about anything? I think that's the problem. I mean, it's it's unnavigable from, from many perspectives. Like, unless you really do your own homework, you're never the wiser what's good and what's not right. But even when you do your own homework, like not what credible what credible source are you using? Because even in the scientific community they disagree. So you got to at some point pick a side on what you think is right or what makes the most sense to you. And ah, and I'm just speaking for myself, am I really qualified to make that decision? Probably not, because I don't know, I'm I did not I, I think it's impossible for anybody who will use the example as perfect to be, you know, healthy in the sense of in all of its form. I mean, there's. It's in. You got crap in everything. Like. And even. Even if you're not. Even if you're eating. Even if you're eating healthy, even in the products you put on your skin like sunscreens, you know, deodorants, you know, perfumes. And it doesn't just stem it. It's a it's a huge vine that it follows. I mean, it goes back to I mean, okay, well, why why is a good reason. A lot of these things are in our food. Okay. Well maybe it's cheaper to manufacture. Okay. So now we're going back to manufacturing and then okay, well now it's more expensive for farmers to have the same kind of yield. So now they're taking shortcuts and using the chemicals and using the stuff that gains higher yields and kills more insects. But that's just diminishing all the good qualities in our soil to make good food in the first place. So we're we're slowly just killing everything off. That's that's the scary part to me. Thank you for tuning in to part two of Siblings Unleashed. I appreciate you being with us for this journey. Be sure to join us for part three, where Ian and I will dive into the Karen Reed trial, the Gabby Petito case, and a host of other compelling topics. Oh, and if you're enjoying this content, please subscribe and send me a note if you have a story you want to share. If you want to support the creation of more episodes, visit me at buy Me a coffee. Com forward slash the life we live. Until next time, embrace every moment and find joy in the life you live.